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Originally posted by [livejournal.com profile] tongodeon at The Virginia Declaration of Rights
I learned something interesting today. The Bill of Rights (1789) was based heavily on the Virginia Declaration of Rights (1776). The Second Amendment was derived from this section:


Section 13. That a well-regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defense of a free state; that standing armies, in time of peace, should be avoided as dangerous to liberty; and that in all cases the military should be under strict subordination to, and governed by, the civil power.


This is an angle that I haven't heard before, probably because it's not convenient to either side of the gun debate. The primary purpose of Section 13 (and possibly the Second Amendment) was not to facilitate the overthrow of a tyrannical government, it was to avoid the rise of that government in the first place by preventing standing armies. This also gives the phrase "well-regulated militia" a bit of a clearer meaning. In order to make sure that standing armies are unnecessary you don't simply ensure that every civilian had access to guns, they also had to be capable of fighting together as a well-regulated militia.

Date: 2014-06-02 09:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eloquentwthrage.livejournal.com
Problem is, that's not the language of the Second Amendment. "The right of the people to keep and bare arms shall not be infringed." Too specific, and the part about a well-regulated militia is pretty much tangential. As horrifying as it is to think, it's going to take a mass killing of hundreds of people by several/many terrorist-types carrying assault weapons before anything is done with that amendment. It can happen, but only as the result of countless deaths. And still folks like the guy who dropped his gun at Walmart and shot a woman who was pushing her baby in a stroller, they won't care.

Date: 2014-06-10 02:18 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] boutell.livejournal.com
Yeah, it's not gonna get reinterpreted as allowing meaningful gun control any time soon.

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